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	<title>Comments on: Why has Andrew Flintoff retired from Test cricket?</title>
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		<title>By: e normous</title>
		<link>http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/why-has-andrew-flintoff-retired-from-test-cricket/2009/07/15/#comment-21563</link>
		<dc:creator>e normous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never felt all that unnatural to me. not that I&#039;ve ever been able to bowl fast.

isn&#039;t there a lot of stuff that&#039;s &quot;unnatural&quot; if you look at it this way? like javelin throwing for one, that&#039;s pretty similar in terms of running up and then suddenly stopping, etc. maybe early man running up and flinging spears at things was also unnatural?

also the &quot;running in as fast as possible&quot; isn&#039;t really always true, there have been a lot of bowlers with measured, rhythmic approaches... holding comes to mind. thompson pretty much just ambled up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never felt all that unnatural to me. not that I&#8217;ve ever been able to bowl fast.</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t there a lot of stuff that&#8217;s &#8220;unnatural&#8221; if you look at it this way? like javelin throwing for one, that&#8217;s pretty similar in terms of running up and then suddenly stopping, etc. maybe early man running up and flinging spears at things was also unnatural?</p>
<p>also the &#8220;running in as fast as possible&#8221; isn&#8217;t really always true, there have been a lot of bowlers with measured, rhythmic approaches&#8230; holding comes to mind. thompson pretty much just ambled up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahinda</title>
		<link>http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/why-has-andrew-flintoff-retired-from-test-cricket/2009/07/15/#comment-21554</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was listening to an interview about Thommo the other day, where the interviewee mentioned that he [Thommo] knew it was right when his knee locked -- he ran in, jammed his foot on the crease, and his entire body weight (including plenty of momentum, no doubt) would pivot around his knee to deliver one killer of a ball.

And that&#039;s why his knee got knackered.

Bowling at 70mph is not natural. Bowling at 90mph is even less so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to an interview about Thommo the other day, where the interviewee mentioned that he [Thommo] knew it was right when his knee locked &#8212; he ran in, jammed his foot on the crease, and his entire body weight (including plenty of momentum, no doubt) would pivot around his knee to deliver one killer of a ball.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why his knee got knackered.</p>
<p>Bowling at 70mph is not natural. Bowling at 90mph is even less so.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bert - 

Nice analogy. Maybe bowlers should follow through all the way to the boundary.

As far as Flintoff goes, this has surely been coming for a while now. Let&#039;s hope he can give us a fitting send-off before everyone starts talking about Luke Wright as being the new Freddie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bert &#8211; </p>
<p>Nice analogy. Maybe bowlers should follow through all the way to the boundary.</p>
<p>As far as Flintoff goes, this has surely been coming for a while now. Let&#8217;s hope he can give us a fitting send-off before everyone starts talking about Luke Wright as being the new Freddie.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He never had to bowl at 90mph when he was taking up fast bowling. If you stick to 78mph you can probably bowl for ever.

It&#039;s worth thinking about how a fast bowler generates pace. Obviously there&#039;s the arm speed, but the rest comes from a bit of mechanics. Bowler runs up, as fast as he can while still in control, then he jams his left foot into the ground to stop it dead. His linear momentum (sorry, KC) is then translated into a rotation about his left foot, which generates the extra pace. Oh, and to add a bit more, he twists then untwists his back.

Just imagine asking Usain Bolt to win the 100m Olympic final and then stop within 5 yards. Reckon we&#039;d see much of him on the sprint circuit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He never had to bowl at 90mph when he was taking up fast bowling. If you stick to 78mph you can probably bowl for ever.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth thinking about how a fast bowler generates pace. Obviously there&#8217;s the arm speed, but the rest comes from a bit of mechanics. Bowler runs up, as fast as he can while still in control, then he jams his left foot into the ground to stop it dead. His linear momentum (sorry, KC) is then translated into a rotation about his left foot, which generates the extra pace. Oh, and to add a bit more, he twists then untwists his back.</p>
<p>Just imagine asking Usain Bolt to win the 100m Olympic final and then stop within 5 yards. Reckon we&#8217;d see much of him on the sprint circuit?</p>
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		<title>By: e normous</title>
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		<dc:creator>e normous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, really. As a kid, why did he start bowling fast? He wasn&#039;t forced or something, was he? To me that makes it seem like his body was okay with it. The idea that he&#039;s been doing something - voluntarily, and for this long - that his body can&#039;t handle, is kinda weird to me... I mean, if you can&#039;t do it, it feels wrong, right? And if it feels wrong, why would you do it?

I dunno, I have the feeling that his problems are at least as much due to mismanagement and people messing with his action as they are to physical incompatibility or whatever you want to call it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, really. As a kid, why did he start bowling fast? He wasn&#8217;t forced or something, was he? To me that makes it seem like his body was okay with it. The idea that he&#8217;s been doing something &#8211; voluntarily, and for this long &#8211; that his body can&#8217;t handle, is kinda weird to me&#8230; I mean, if you can&#8217;t do it, it feels wrong, right? And if it feels wrong, why would you do it?</p>
<p>I dunno, I have the feeling that his problems are at least as much due to mismanagement and people messing with his action as they are to physical incompatibility or whatever you want to call it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ged Ladd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ged Ladd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why on earth are they even considering playing him at Lord&#039;s?  Save him for the tests that he might just win for us; Edgbastard and Headingleech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why on earth are they even considering playing him at Lord&#8217;s?  Save him for the tests that he might just win for us; Edgbastard and Headingleech.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why on earth did he bowl so many overs in Cardiff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why on earth did he bowl so many overs in Cardiff?</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone pick up on Harmisons new piece of cricketing vernacular - the chief executives wicket.

This is what has killed Freddie and will damage many other quicks but at least it draws the punters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone pick up on Harmisons new piece of cricketing vernacular &#8211; the chief executives wicket.</p>
<p>This is what has killed Freddie and will damage many other quicks but at least it draws the punters!</p>
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		<title>By: Ceci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re lying Charlton - it&#039;s the dancers that you like - the cricket is just a distraction.

Re Fred - I just loved his bish bash boshing of Kallis last year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re lying Charlton &#8211; it&#8217;s the dancers that you like &#8211; the cricket is just a distraction.</p>
<p>Re Fred &#8211; I just loved his bish bash boshing of Kallis last year</p>
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		<title>By: D Charlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Charlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hands are firmly down. I&#039;d prefer to see medium pacers getting smashed for six during more and more Twenty20s. I just love it and need more. More is more is more is more. That&#039;s what cricket is about. More of more.

I think Michael Holding said it in some cricket magazine, Bert, maybe that one that published your comment as a lettter that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hands are firmly down. I&#8217;d prefer to see medium pacers getting smashed for six during more and more Twenty20s. I just love it and need more. More is more is more is more. That&#8217;s what cricket is about. More of more.</p>
<p>I think Michael Holding said it in some cricket magazine, Bert, maybe that one that published your comment as a lettter that time.</p>
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