What exactly did Matthew Hayden say when he was “in conversation with the mystic”?

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If you don’t know Indian yogi and author “Sadhguru” (Jaggi Vasudev), he’s kind of a big deal. The Isha Foundation that he set up in 1992 is said to have over nine million volunteers. A lot of people like Sadhguru. They think he’s wise. In August 2019, Sadhguru agreed to get on stage and talk to Matthew Hayden about stuff.

Hayden is not the first cricketer to do this kind of thing with Sadhguru. Sachin Tendulkar spoke to him in front of plenty of people in 2015 and he also did a thing with Virender Sehwag, during which the opener’s, “see ball, hit ball,” philosophy was rewritten as the slightly-less-catchy, “forget expectations, just hit the ball.”

So what arose from this timeless meeting with the creator of The Hayden Way?

In (a very long) conversation with the mystic

Okay, first of all we’ve got to level with you. Much as the prospect of watching the full 2h10m video appeals to us, we don’t need an internationally-renowned spiritualist to tell us that our time on this Earth is finite.

Spinal Tap and The Big Lebowski ain’t going to rewatch themselves and Smashtastic Cricket ain’t going to play itself. As such, we settled on watching a very short bit at the start before skipping around randomly.

One thing that we noticed very early on is that neither of them is very obviously the host.

We kind of thought Sadhguru would be running the thing, but it’s actually Hayden who starts things off by welcoming the yogi before providing, “the definition of Australia,” which is apparently, “the faces that we see in front of us.”

After that Sadhguru makes a lame joke about the title being “beyond boundaries,” thus further diminishing what was already a terrible and hackneyed play on words.

Then he does a really cool move. Just as you’re expecting him to ask some sort of specific question to get proceedings underway, he throws in a sudden “please” and unexpectedly cedes the floor to Hayden.

It’s a classic hospital pass. You should definitely throw in an open-ended “please” the next time you’re in a meeting.

Hayden flounders and says something about it being a beautiful occasion, “as it always is when you get a lot of people in a room.” (This is not a fact. We won’t resort to citing any specific wartime atrocities, but lots of people in a room is most definitely not a guarantee of a beautiful occasion.)

He eventually asks, “What force is dragging us all together?” and finally we’re sort of underway.

So what did Hayden say?

This website is not especially interested in what Sadhguru says because he is not an ex-cricketer who has concluded he is a public speaker on the basis that he has ‘cemented his communication skill sets’. We do however have to mention the moment where he uses a surfing analogy – “some people are crushed by the wave” – despite Hayden having once broken his spine when he got crushed by the wave while surfing.

Disappointingly, about 99.5% of the video is Sadhguru talking and Hayden mostly restricts himself to asking questions. (It turns out he is the host).

We did find a few nice additions to the Gospel According to Haydos though.

  • “My first impressions of India is that there is a lot of people”
  • “I like to cook and I know one thing about rice”
  • “We can have a cook-off. Not a competition. Just an enrichment. An enrichment experience”
  • “Trust me, at times I did feel like holding up Rahul Dravid by the belly and shaking him a little”
  • “You might describe yourself as a platelet within the human body”

And it seems appropriate to finish with this one: “Australia is – correct me if I’m wrong – full of things that make no sense whatsoever.”

Thanks to The Smudge for pointing this out to us.


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    1. Think it was maybe a garbled reference to something said earlier. The important part is that it was garbled.

  1. I think you should set up a category on this website called Matthew Hayden b******* watch. He is in a similar sort of category to Nita Ambati.

  2. You have to hand it to Sadhguru, he does splendid beard.

    Haydos pales into insignificance in so many ways.

    I love the line about our time on this earth being infinite, but thought you were probably exaggerating for effect when you said that the video is 2h10m long. In fact, I observe, it is 2h10m58s long, so if anything you were understating the case.

    I have skimmed about 15-20 seconds of the thing; time well invested. Splendid beard, which moves serenely when the guru speaks.

  3. Gonna put this out there but in this post fact world, what if and I mean what if: What if everything Matthew Hayden says is true???

  4. A couple of months ago Hayden appeared on a podcast that asks people about their life philosophies, it’s hosted by a comedian and I usually enjoy it. I did not enjoy Hayden’s episode. Let me give you the highlights:

    Hayden grew up on a farm and so he really likes the outdoors.
    He likes to go fishing.
    He really likes the outdoors.
    He likes to go hunting.
    He really really likes the outdoors.
    He likes cooking.
    He likes running up sand dunes.
    He likes Justin Langer.
    He really really really likes the outdoors.
    He likes going fishing with Andrew Symonds for hours, but they never talk on these trips.
    He is really religious, like one of those people that makes sure you know it.
    His favourite moments are “when other people have success” like when Symonds got his MCG hundred, but he didn’t convince me he was being truthful about this fact.
    Did I mention he likes the outdoors a lot?

    I can’t remember much more about it other than my opinion of him went a bit lower than it already was. It did take him over half an hour before he used the work “Skillsets” though, so good restraint from him there.

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